Today is Baby Back Ribs day and I love a good bbq’d rib.
Centerville’s Thai Village Hosts Soft Opening
Those of us who are big fans of Thai Table on Far Hills in Centerville should be happy that the former owner there, Sue Whitted, has decided to continue to grow her presence in the Thai food scene! She also owns Thai Kitchen at 2335 Miamisburg-Centerville Road in Miami Twp and Hello Thai at 3301 Dayton Xenia Road in Beavercreek. Thai Village at Cornerstone is quickly filling the space left behind by Core Life Eatery. Trust me, this is an upgrade.
5201 Cornerstone N Blvd,
Centerville, OH, 45440
Big Boys, Big Macs and the Tootburger from Dixie Diner
I remember my first Big Mac. 8th or 9th grade. Wrestling team bus ride to an away match. My bestie, also named Brian, ordered one. I ordered one. It was amazing. Shortly after I learned that a Big Mac was McDonald’s take on the Big Boy. You could get a Big Boy in my town at Frisch’s. I had been a Buddy Boy guy before this life changing revelation.
Since that time, 1987, I have been a Big Boy guy. Big Mac’s are great in a pinch but the Big Boy is the OG. Here’s the story.
The original double-deck hamburger with two “never frozen” burgers, lettuce, cheese, mayo and our special red relish was invented at Bob’s Pantry in 1936. The Big Boy brand and sandwich, a double decker hamburger, only existed in Burbank at the 4 Big Boy diners. It wasn’t until the 1940’s the Big Boy brand was franchised to Frisch’s in Cincinnati and to EatNPark in Pittsburgh.
At one time the Big Boy name and burger was franchised to dozens of operators covering hundreds of restaurants including Bob’s Big Boy, Frisch’s Big Boy, Shoney’s Big Boy (they still exist but don’t feature the OG Burger on their menu any longer). At one time Marriott owned the brand. Somewhere along the way it was adapted and the red relish disappeared and variations of thousand island and tartar sauce were swapped in for the sauce we know today.
A McDonalds guy in Pittsburgh introduced the idea of a Big Mac in the late 60’s trying to compete with Pittsburgh’s EatNPark Big Boy and Bob’s Big Boy both of which were popular in Western PA. The first Big Mac was served in Uniontown PA in one of Jim Delligatti’s McDonalds locations (he owned quite a few McDs).
My favorite version here in Dayton can be found at the Dixie Diner in New Lebanon. They call theirs the Tootburger, an homage to an old New Lebanon Ohio drive in, the Toot, that served a Big Boy like sandwich back in the day. It was a 1960’s hot spot for cruising and old fashioned fast food.
The Tootburger is everything you wish you got with a Big Mac. Two great beefy patties and a housemade sauce, cheese and three fresh buns holding it together. Start with an extra napkin or two on hand.
My second favorite is the Whizzburger at the Dizzy Whizz between 2nd and 3rd in Louisville’s Old Lou neighborhood. This place has the feel of old drive in and the burger never disappoints.
So if we are skipping the Golden Arches, and it’s tough to find a Frisch’s anymore, where do you go for this all-American double patty, triple bun, sauced up burger? Tell us in the comments, and if you make it out to the Dixie Diner in New Lebanon, tell them that Bryan from Dayton Dining sent you.
New Lebanon, OH,
Ownership Change For Bill’s Donuts
For the first time since its inception in 1960, Bill’s Donuts will no longer be owned by the Elam Family. Founder and namesake Bill (and Faye) Elam started the business in 1960 in downtown Dayton. Since 1995 two of Bill and Faye’s children, Lisa Tucker and her brother Jim Elam, have owned and operated Bill’s. They moved Bill’s to the current location, Main Street Centerville, in 1997 from a location a bit farther south in town.
Quest for Dayton’s Best: Lasagna
As a kid, I grew up on Chef Boyardee’s Lasagna. You know the kind. It came in a box with a can of sauce, powdered cheese, and lasagna noodles. It was fast, easy, and not terribly delicious. When my parents wanted real lasagna, we drove to Lebanon and ate at the Tavern. It was the best lasagna in town. It was a single serving in a metal pan, covered in tons of melted stringy cheese, bubbling with housemade sauce and it arrived with a mini loaf of french bread doused in garlic butter. My parents loved this place and I loved the lasagna.
I found it! We are surrounded by great Italian food here in Dayton.
Starting south of town I worked my way across the county and here is my report.
Great lasagna isn’t far away. In Kettering, we have an abundance for every taste. While locals are divided between Jimmy’s Italian Kitchen on Woodman or Troni’s on Dorothy Lane, one thing is clear, the sauce is fresh and full of flavor. $8.99 gets you enough lasagna to demand an afternoon nap. Troni’s has a great salad and house dressing for their lunch special, Jimmy’s serves soup alongside their lunch. Troni’s delivered with pasta that was cooking perfectly and sauce with spice. Order extra garlic knots. Jimmy’s sauce is chunkier, which I like, and the rolls are soft and buttery, but I wanted the garlic and didn’t get it.
I drove past Mamma Disalvo’s on the way to these two stops. The lasagna there is 100% Mama’s. The sauce is thicker, sweeter, and made with love. Mama’s lasagna is like my grandmas. The ricotta is noticeable and the pasta is cooked perfectly and still has a bite to it. It is covered in mozzarella and baked off to perfection. Order extra bread, you don’t want to leave any of that sauce on the plate.
For folks up north you aren’t far from great layered pasta and cheese either. Folks know Giovanni’s in Fairborn for their pizza and subs. Skip the pizza, order the lasagna. Portions large enough to share, you won’t want to but you could, and dinner prices make it so you can get the antipasto plate beforehand. Dinner is $13.00 with salad and housemade Italian bread.
Quest For Dayton’s Best: Chicken Wings
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Quest for the Best Breakfast Sandwich
I like a good breakfast sandwich.
I’ve been known to bash a cheap sausage biscuit from Speedway in a pinch and when I was younger the Bacon Egg and Cheese biscuit from McDonalds was the gold standard.
In college the sausage biscuit with mustard and a can of Coke (daily) literally got me through sophomore year.
The older I get the more refined and particular my tastes, but my affinity for a great breakfast sammie still lives on. It’s the my inner college kid trying to stay alive I suppose.
So here it is my quest for the best breakfast sandwich:
Warehouse 4 Kettering, bacon, egg and cheese on a square biscuit. The bacon is cooked right, the cheese melty and the eggs almost omelet like fluffy. It’s a complete sandwich and doesn’t lack for flavor or texture. Creamy eggs and melty cheese, a crunch from the bacon and the exterior of the biscuit all live in harmony. Paired with a latte and good book, my Saturday morning is complete for about $10.00.
Ghostlight Dough at Second Street Market has bagels. Delicious chewy flavorful bagels and they make for a great sandwich. I opted for the bacon, egg and cheese on their onion bagel. This is as close to a perfect bagel breakfast sandwich I’ve ever had. It was under $6.00 and wrapped perfect for eating while walking the market.
Few people know about the delight that is Vinny’s Bar and Grill and Carryout in Moraine for breakfast on the go. It’s a bit out of my way but I make the effort every month to get one of their sandwiches. My usual is fried egg, bacon, American cheese on white toast with light mayo. This isn’t a health food column so don’t @ me on this one. Best served with a cold Coke or Diet Coke it feels like your grandma made it. Part of this experience is ordering in the kitchen. Trust the process and tip the cook. She’s the best.
B&B Carryout is a special place. For those of us Warren County kids raised hunting and fishing at Caesar’s Creek, you know B&B. It’s local. They’ve got bait. Jerky. They have a kitchen and a full Craft Beer cooler with more than 100 different cans. You can also get gas, a new hat, a pair of gloves or a fishing lure. I go there for the Big Bo (bacon instead of sausage, if you ask nice they’ll do that for you). The Big Bo is bacon, egg, hash brown, double American Cheese on a toasted hamburger bun. This is not for the weak. They also have superb biscuits and gravy and the nicest ladies behind the counter. The Big Bo is under $5.00 so that leaves room for coffee, or a Coke or 1/2 dozen minnows if you’re fishing later.
A good quest is never complete. So tell us, where do you go for a quick breakfast sandwich on the go? Tell us in the comments and maybe we will see you at your favorite spot.
Quest To Find The Long Lost $10 Lunch
I am cheap. Frugal. Especially lunch. I am not looking for fine dining and I am not checking the consistency of size in my diced onions. I am looking for some protein and carbs to get me through the afternoon. Even the cheap Chinese buffets are $11 or more for lunch. Inflation is testing restaurant owners and wallet conscious diners alike.
10 years ago you could find a $10 lunch pretty easily. In this post-COVID new Downtown Dayton era the $10 lunch is hard to come by while simultaneously avoiding the chain fast food joints.
Taco Garcia Mobil food truck at Huffman and East 3rd has been my go to downtown since 2019. Their prices have gone up but you can still snag two or three tacos and a Coke for around $10 or less. My usual order is one carne and two chicken and chorizo mixed. The chorizo gives some life to the chicken and the chicken gives some structure to the soft chorizo. It’s the perfect street taco in my opinion.
If I am not feeling tacos I make a run to Falb’s. Located on the corner of Chapel Street and Kiser for almost one hundred years you can’t spend more than $10 if you try. Pork Tenderloin and a salad and a Coke, $10. Burger, chili and a Coke. $10. Sloppy Joe and onion rings with a Coke, about $10. Tell Joe and Dwayne we sent you.
Closer to downtown, near the Arcade’s 3rd Street entrance you can stop by Olive Mediterranean Grill and get a Gyro and a drink for $10. I get it to go with a side of hummus and pita, you guessed it $10. The falafel platter, $10. It’s a plate sized for lunch and sized for my wallet. This menu is super accessible for meat eaters and vegetarians alike.
I am most excited about what the new owners at Kramer’s are doing. Located behind UD on Irving the new owners made some changes that have put them on my map for lunch. Wings, fries, soda $10. Burger, fries, soda, $10. 7″ pizza and soda, $10. Every day they have a special highlighting the menu. A hot Italian sub, chips and cold drink, $10 on Wednesday’s always has my attention. Don’t get me started on the happy hour specials during the week. It feels like college again.
So tell me, when the budget is tight and you need lunch, where can I find you getting a bite for $10?
Carmen’s Deli to close on April 28th
I’ve never written a restaurant eulogy before. It saddens me to write this one.
Our beloved Haitham Imam, Dayton’s most gracious restaurateur is calling it quits. By chance I ran into Haitham, my neighbor, at the store this weekend when he told me, with a smile and a tear, that Carmen’s Deli would close on Friday April 28th. The 14 year run has come to an end.
Closing. Not remodeling. Not moving. Not exploring a new space.
Just closing.
Haitham, a Palestinian immigrant from Jerusalem, opened Carmen’s Deli back in 2009 then moved it in 2012 to what was then the Kettering Tower. Downtown has changed a lot since then and never more drastic than what we’ve experienced in the last three years. Kettering Tower is now Stratocache Tower and this is one of the unintended consequences of fewer people working downtown.
I’ll skip the rumors about Stratocache not being very interested in helping find a way to keep this institution afloat. For the record, Haitham never said a bad word to me about anyone. Not the empty Premier building across the street or the operators of Stratocache Tower. He simply thanked every patron for stopping in and waiting patiently.
Known for his smile and “thank you my friend for coming in today” and a long list of sandwiches including the falafel gyro and Reuben, both which topped my list of favorites. Haitham’s unceasing optimism and love for downtown was contagious. There was something about grabbing lunch where every sandwich and wrap was served with a side of love and gratitude.
I write this not so much as a goodbye, but rather a reminder of the good in our fair city. An immigrant coming to our city. Chasing his dream. Welcoming us into his special corner of downtown and feeding us with a smile. Let’s not forget that.
Here are three things you might not have known about Carmen’s Deli:
1) It was named after Haitham’s wife Carmen.
2) Haitham is a graduate of Sinclair’s Culinary Arts Program
3) Haitman is also employed by Sinclair and told me he will be working more there and you might find him cooking this summer for fans of the Dayton Dragons.
I’ll be there often over the next four weeks so I can thank him and grab one more falafel, one more reuben, one more burger, and hear him say “hello friend, good to see you” one more time.
Thank you my friend for feeding us these last 14 years. You and the deli will be missed.
Kettering City BBQ Opens Dec 1st!
City Barbeque Kettering
2001 E. Dorothy Lane
Kettering, OH 45420
937-200-1006
Wizard of Za To Open On Brown Street
The Wizard of Za
Dayton, OH 45409
BBQ Judge Bryan Suddith on BBQ
I’ve written a lot about BBQ.
So today I write about it again. Today is National BBQ Day and my friends at the Kansas City Barbecue Society have been reminding me that May is National BBQ Month. I do love BBQ. I was just in South Carolina in March for bbq, judged a competition in Atlanta in April, judged a competition in Indianapolis later in April, and was in Austin last weekend eating bbq for fun.
In June I am judging contests in Ohio, cooking in a contest in Kentucky and judging another contest in Indiana. I spend a lot of time traveling to eat, cook and judge great bbq.
It doesn’t take a lot of of anything to make great barbecue. Just meat, fire, and time. Three little things that when done right produces a great product. The best bite of barbecue I have ever had didn’t require electricity. Just a guy and a fire and long long hours tending to both.
Here are four things I have learned over the last 8 years traveling, eating, judging and studying American Barbecue.
First: The debate of Kansas City vs. Texas. Which is better? They are both crazy good. It’s a style difference. It’s like comparing deep dish pizza with a slice of thin New York City pizza. Both good. Not the same. All the major BBQ regions offer something unique about their region. BBQ is personal like that. It’s built on tradition and proteins that are local. Texas = Beef. Lots of it. Carolinas = Pork lots of it. My tip, don’t go to Greeneville South Carolina or Memphis looking for Brisket.
Second: Behind every good plate of barbecue is a family and that family has a story and barbecue is how they share that story. In South Carolina I ate at Mike and Jeff’s BBQ. Mike’s mom was the server, Mike’s sister was at the register and Mike was tending the coals at the smoker out front. Louie Mueller’s in Taylor Texas is operated by Wayne Mueller, grandson of Louie. His sister operates one of the hippest BBQ shops in Austin, La Barbecue.
SLAPS BBQ in Kansas City is run by brothers Joe and Mike and their mom is often in the store working the line. Payne’s in Memphis is still run by Flora Payne with her son and daughter at her side. She is still chopping pork at the lunch rush.
Third: BBQ is communal. It’s meant to be shared and eaten as a group. That’s my favorite. Order it all and share it family style. It’s a slow meal. It takes hours to prepare and there is no need to hurry to eat it.
Fourth: BBQ has a real legal definition. The United States Code of Federal Regulations defines BBQ, such as product labeled “Beef Barbecue” or “Barbecued Pork,” shall be cooked by the direct action of dry heat resulting from the burning of hard wood or the hot coals therefrom for a sufficient period to assume the usual characteristics of a barbecued article, which include the formation of a brown crust on the surface and the rendering of surface fat. The product may be basted with a sauce during the cooking process. The weight of barbecued meat shall not exceed 70 percent of the weight of the fresh uncooked meat.
So technically, if there isn’t a wood fire resulting in smoke or hot coals, it isn’t barbecue.
Here are the questions I am asked the most when people learn I have traveled a bit for some great barbecue:
Bryan, what’s your favorite in Texas, Memphis or Kansas City?
Texas: Must visits, Louie Mueller in Taylor Texas, Smitty’s in Lockhart, both Valentina’s and Interstellar in Austin. Snows in Lexington is worth it as well. (I plan to spend time in Houston soon).
Kansas City: My favorite is SLAPs and Q39. Please visit Kansas City Joes and Arthur Bryant’s for the experience.
Memphis: Payne’s is a must as is the Bar B Que Shop (try the spaghetti).
Bryan, what’s your favorite BBQ in Dayton?
I love what Curtis is doing at Fatbacks BBQ and his brisket is full of flavor and is my favorite in town.
It is hard to beat the ribs at Flyby BBQ at the Fairfield mall.
I have been so impressed by what Warped Wing Springboro is creating out of their Ole Hickory smoker and the pulled pork nachos and pork belly sliders are better than Dayton deserves.
With that said, I have had great BBQ at Oinka Doodle Moo, City Barbecue (same smoker as Warped Wing), Hickory River in Tipp City, Adam’s Rib in Eaton, Combs in Middletown, Just Q In in Cincy, Pickles and Bones in Milford, and many many more. Those three up top are just my favorites here in Dayton.
So go. Celebrate National BBQ day and find some barbecue. Find a spot you like and support your local Pitmaster.
Huber Heights Chicken Joint Gets New Owners and New Name
Workshop To Present a Slam-Worthy Story
Modeled after The Moth storytelling events, the open mic event welcomes storytellers of all ages and experience levels to share a story from the stage. Story Slam stories are 1st person true stories told live and are all centered on monthly theme.
The August 17th workshop, led by Story Slam producer Bryan Suddith, who is a 4 time Moth winning storyteller. It will cover the basics of crafting a 5 minute personal story for the Story Slam stage. The 90 minute class will give you the tools to create a story, practice and a chance to take the stage with confidence under the lights. Register online to confirm your spot for just $10. Each registration also comes with a ticket to a Story Slam event during the upcoming year.
Bryan’s Updated Quest for the Best Wings
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Quest for $10 Lunch Downtown
Affordable housing. That’s the supposed guarantee that redevelopment doesn’t become gentrification. It’s a promise that there will be affordable housing so normal people can live in or near the newly redeveloped hip spaces that cost more than the suburbs.
I want that for food.
Affordable dining. With the introduction of “nicer” dining in downtown, Jollity, the Biscuit place, Sueno, and others, the hunt for a good lunch under $10 downtown are becoming scarce. Even that little Chinese buffet is almost $10 now for what is a less than stellar lunch buffet.
So, in good faith, here is my list of best lunches downtown for under $10.
Carmen’s Deli (Stratocache Tower)
Carmen’s Deli Falafael Gyro for $7.95. I eat this at least once a month. No sides are necessary. With all the fresh veggies on top of that pita and crumbled Falafel, you can skip the chips or salad.
Benjamin’s The Burger Master (North Main)
Beans and Cornbread with a wing or two at Benjamin’s Burger Master. If southern/soul food isn’t your thing, you can score a burger and fries well south of $10 there. It’s on Main street and delightful every time.
Blind Bob’s (Oregon District)
Blind Bobs for a BLT and chips. Again, no-frills, just a great sandwich for a great price. When it’s colder I go for the Grilled Cheese with a cup of chili (or the pickle soup). You are still out the door for under $10.
Taqueria Garcia Mobil
7 Huffman Ave, Dayton, OH 45403 (937) 554-8196 (calling ahead speeds things up)
Tacos are $2.50 each now, but three will fill you up, leaving room for a can of cola and you’ve just had the best tacos for under $9.00. I like the chicken and chorizo mix or I get the steak. Get the street taco with cilantro and onion, skip the cheddar, lettuce, and sour cream. This ain’t Taco Bell.
Falb’s Restaurant (Over by Children’s Hospital)
If you have a minute for a short drive out of the business district, and you want a burger, or breaded pork tenderloin, with onion rings and a Coke for less than $8, get to Falb’s. Eat like a king for under $10 there. Check their daily specials.
Canal Street Arcade and Deli
My final go-to when I can’t break the bank is the Club sandwich, half size, at Canal Street Deli. Grab a bag of chips and lunch is completed for about $9.00. My bar tab usually ruins this. A beer while you wait, a beer with lunch, cancel your one o’clock, and get another beer while you play a quick round of Golden Tee while heading to the door. Allegedly.
Where are you finding a bargain for lunch? Let us know in the comments.